What is life about? Reflections on the movie Soul, with Pippa Evans, Mark Vernon, & Jonathan Rowson

Jan 29th, 2021

A friendly chat about the movie Soul, with Pippa Evans, Mark Vernon, and Jonathan Rowson.

Does Pixar’s latest movie have a message we should ‘get’, or is the most important thing to get about the movie that there is really nothing to get?

In what way might it place our plans for our lives in perspective?

Does it make it any clearer what ‘the soul’ is?

Details of the film, recently released, can be found here.

Mark Vernon’s essay on the film is here.​

Rupert Spira’s teachings are mentioned, more of which can be found here.



Mark Vernon is a writer, psychotherapist and associate of Perspectiva. He is the author of several books, including his latest, out this year: A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling and the Evolution of Consciousness. You can find Mark on Twitter.

Pippa Evans is a performer specialising in improvisation and musical theatre. She is a founder member of the Olivier award-winning show, Showstoppers! The Improvisational Musical. Pippa co-founded the Sunday Assembly, a network of secular and inclusive congregations, which now operates in over 70 cities globally. Pippa’s book, Improv Your Life, is available here. You can find Pippa on Twitter.

Jonathan Rowson is co-founder and Director of Perspectiva. He was previously Director of the Social Brain Centre at the RSA, and is an applied philosopher with degrees from Oxford, Harvard and Bristol Universities. In a former life he was a chess Grandmaster and British Champion. His book, The Moves that Matter – A Grandmaster on the Game of Life was published by Bloomsbury in 2019. You can find Jonathan on Twitter.

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