What is Metamodernism? A conversation with Greg Dember & Jonathan Rowson

Greg Dember & Jonathan Rowson
Nov 24th, 2020

An extended and informal exploration of the idea of metamodernism based on the essay by Greg Dember in The Side View magazine: What is Metamodernism and why does it matter?

This discussion takes care to clarify various terms and considers Greg’s distinctive take that highlights the importance of reclaiming the value and dignity of our interiority from modernistic reductionism and postmodern irony. For further information on Greg Dember’s thoughts on Metamodernism, developed together with Linda Ceriello, please see their website.



Greg Dember is a writer, musician, and computer programmer living in Seattle. He received his B.A. in psychology from Yale University, where he also studied literature. His recent intellectual preoccupations (beyond metamodernism) include questions about identity and consciousness, e.g. how people project narrative/self-hood onto other humans, animals, and objects. Musically, Greg records and performs as a ‘post-genre singer-songwriter’ and sometimes plays in other people’s bands. The computer programmer part is how he earns his keep. You can follow Greg Dember on Twitter.

Jonathan Rowson is a writer, philosopher and chess Grandmaster who was British Chess Champion from 2004-2006. He holds degrees from Oxford, Bristol, and Harvard, was the former director of the Social Brain Center at the RSA, and an Open Society Fellow. He is co-founder and director of Perspectiva, a research institute that examines the relationships between complex global challenges and the inner lives of human beings. His latest book is The Moves that Matter: A Chess Grandmaster on the Game of Life. Find out more here.

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