Integral Consciousness and Final Participation, with Jeremy Johnson and Mark Vernon

Feb 15th, 2021

Jean Gebser and Owen Barfield didn’t meet in life. But their insights meet in a blaze of light in the history of ideas and contemporary culture.

Their shared interest was the evolution of human consciousness and what might happen next. Gebser’s integral consciousness illuminates Barfield’s final participation and vice versa.

Mark and Jeremy’s conversation ranges over time and the imagination; the ‘intensification of Christianity’ and ‘sober intoxication’; ancient human consciousness and its meaning for today; the significance of Christianity; and the practices that might secure a consciousness of tomorrow.

The discussion is also published on Jeremy’s Mutations podcast.

Reposted with permission from Mark Vernon’s channel, with thanks to both Jeremy Johnson and Mark Vernon.



Jeremy Johnson is a philosopher, editor, and Senior Research Associate at Perspectiva. He is the author of Seeing Through the World: Jean Gebser and Integral Consciousness. You can find Jeremy on Twitter.

Mark Vernon is a writer, psychotherapist and associate of Perspectiva. He is the author of several books, including his latest, out this year: A Secret History of Christianity: Jesus, the Last Inkling and the Evolution of Consciousness. You can find Mark on Twitter.

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